Comments on: http://www.skylocke.com/tailbanding.htmlTHIS LINK TELLS U HOW TO DOCK A TAIL & WHO CHECKS THE RSPCA? http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca Wellness iN Tune Australia Sun, 20 May 2012 14:04:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Feral http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca/comment-page-1#comment-1126 Feral Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:40:59 +0000 http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca#comment-1126 Erm.......was that a question? Ok well as regards to England, tail docking is now banned here as a law brought in by the RSPCA and passed as a government law states that it is so. This covers cosmetic docking as would be expected. Any Breed that is recognised as having a docked tail, will now be born and live to adulthood without loosing its tail. Don't think so! Theres a loophole in the law which states that a breeder cannot dock the tail of any puppies they breed, however the law states that the breeder can not, but a vet can, and if carried out under a local anaesthetic, and stitched properly, theres no law to prevent it. The law was brought in to prevent people either buying a puppy and removing its tail once its a few weeks old, and usually by means of a pair of shears, or an elastic band, which cuts off the circulation and the tail drops off, but usually as part of the infection which follows. Also some breeders still use old methods like biting the tail off, using a razor, or even burning the tips off with a blow torch, which even for a two day old puppy are pretty barbaric, and they do feel it. Its just the nervous system isn't as highly developed at that age so people assume its painless. I have personally seen several young dogs who should have been docked but havn't and so look rediculous, not because their tails are weird, but because they are stereotyped to have a docked tail. A young Rotty I know has a tail almost two thirds the length of its body which causes devastasion where ever it goes while wagging, and I have seen a young cocker with a tail so long and bushy that as soon as it goes into woodland, he tears most of his tail out on the gorse and thorn bushes. They were docked for a reason and should stay that way, but taking both sides of the argument, docking should be undertaken properly and by following the correct procedures.<br><b>References : </b><br> Erm…….was that a question?

Ok well as regards to England, tail docking is now banned here as a law brought in by the RSPCA and passed as a government law states that it is so. This covers cosmetic docking as would be expected. Any Breed that is recognised as having a docked tail, will now be born and live to adulthood without loosing its tail. Don't think so!

Theres a loophole in the law which states that a breeder cannot dock the tail of any puppies they breed, however the law states that the breeder can not, but a vet can, and if carried out under a local anaesthetic, and stitched properly, theres no law to prevent it.

The law was brought in to prevent people either buying a puppy and removing its tail once its a few weeks old, and usually by means of a pair of shears, or an elastic band, which cuts off the circulation and the tail drops off, but usually as part of the infection which follows. Also some breeders still use old methods like biting the tail off, using a razor, or even burning the tips off with a blow torch, which even for a two day old puppy are pretty barbaric, and they do feel it. Its just the nervous system isn't as highly developed at that age so people assume its painless.

I have personally seen several young dogs who should have been docked but havn't and so look rediculous, not because their tails are weird, but because they are stereotyped to have a docked tail. A young Rotty I know has a tail almost two thirds the length of its body which causes devastasion where ever it goes while wagging, and I have seen a young cocker with a tail so long and bushy that as soon as it goes into woodland, he tears most of his tail out on the gorse and thorn bushes.

They were docked for a reason and should stay that way, but taking both sides of the argument, docking should be undertaken properly and by following the correct procedures.
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]]> By: anne b http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca/comment-page-1#comment-1125 anne b Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:16:59 +0000 http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca#comment-1125 The only thing I can say to this is, didn't the UK pass a law quite some time ago about cropping and docking? And they seem to be surviving just fine. They also have alot of other very sensible laws about animal cruelty. Hmmm.....<br><b>References : </b><br>dog rescue volunteer The only thing I can say to this is, didn't the UK pass a law quite some time ago about cropping and docking? And they seem to be surviving just fine. They also have alot of other very sensible laws about animal cruelty. Hmmm…..
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]]> By: Leonie V http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca/comment-page-1#comment-1124 Leonie V Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:54:59 +0000 http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca#comment-1124 I'm not quite sure what the question is, but here is my view. As a rotties owner and a dog lover. I believe tail docking should be allowed...with provisions. 1. The tail must be docked by a vet. 2. at the time of docking the puppies are to be microchiped. 3. Proper certification must be filled out by the vet. 4.This certification must be able to be presented when requested by a governing authority, this has to be some sort of tamper proof document that states the breed, any distinguishing marks on the dog, the microchip number and the details of the vet who did the procedures. and bigger penalties in forced on those who do not obey the conditions.<br><b>References : </b><br> I'm not quite sure what the question is, but here is my view. As a rotties owner and a dog lover. I believe tail docking should be allowed…with provisions.
1. The tail must be docked by a vet.
2. at the time of docking the puppies are to be microchiped.
3. Proper certification must be filled out by the vet.
4.This certification must be able to be presented when requested by a governing authority, this has to be some sort of tamper proof document that states the breed, any distinguishing marks on the dog, the microchip number and the details of the vet who did the procedures.
and bigger penalties in forced on those who do not obey the conditions.
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]]> By: Diamond http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca/comment-page-1#comment-1123 Diamond Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:29:59 +0000 http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca#comment-1123 the KC have stopped letting dogs born after a certain date being shown with docked tails. Dogs should be Left as nature intended<br><b>References : </b><br> the KC have stopped letting dogs born after a certain date being shown with docked tails.
Dogs should be Left as nature intended
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]]> By: shelagh.medic@talk21.com http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca/comment-page-1#comment-1122 shelagh.medic@talk21.com Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:14:59 +0000 http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca#comment-1122 Here in the UK we have a docking ban, yet another example of the government railroading the public! Don't get me started on the RSPCA!! I have so many examples of their incompetence I could write a book! I once wrote to the BBC about a programme in which the RSPCA were seen to rescue injured and distressed animals both wild and domestic. I questioned the programme as in my experience the RSPCA will not come out to an injured animal unless it has already been caught and even then they often refuse. The answer I got from the BBC was that the programme was for entertainment only and was not intended as fact!!! I still have that letter somewhere, not sure where though. As a child, teenager and young adult I was a strong supporter of the RSPCA but now I am disgusted by them. As I said I could write a book on how the RSPCA fails animals in the UK. I suppose if they are the same in Australia at least they are consistent.<br><b>References : </b><br> Here in the UK we have a docking ban, yet another example of the government railroading the public! Don't get me started on the RSPCA!! I have so many examples of their incompetence I could write a book! I once wrote to the BBC about a programme in which the RSPCA were seen to rescue injured and distressed animals both wild and domestic. I questioned the programme as in my experience the RSPCA will not come out to an injured animal unless it has already been caught and even then they often refuse. The answer I got from the BBC was that the programme was for entertainment only and was not intended as fact!!! I still have that letter somewhere, not sure where though.
As a child, teenager and young adult I was a strong supporter of the RSPCA but now I am disgusted by them.
As I said I could write a book on how the RSPCA fails animals in the UK. I suppose if they are the same in Australia at least they are consistent.
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]]> By: ~*~fun times~*~ http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca/comment-page-1#comment-1121 ~*~fun times~*~ Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:50:59 +0000 http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca#comment-1121 what was the question ?<br><b>References : </b><br> what was the question ?
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]]> By: ELLE T http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca/comment-page-1#comment-1120 ELLE T Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:03:59 +0000 http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca#comment-1120 Seems like a rant more than a question, lol !!! However, with regard to docking, I am against docking. We got our Weimaraner b*tch 5 years ago and she had already had to have another part of her tail amputated following an infection post docking. When we got her home our own vet was of the opinion that we might need to have the rest of the tail taken off so she would be completely tail-less. We managed to save what little tail she had left which is now about two inches long. We have never docked any of our puppies even before the docking ban came into the UK. We have been told by people that because we live in a rural area and have a shotgun licence we will be able to dock our puppies as working dogs. They aren't sold as working dogs and I will not mutilate my puppies just to get a quick sale. I have no doubt that I could sell my puppies at a vastly inflated price if I were to dock them as working dogs but I would never do that. There are cases for docking and against docking at every turn. Leaving the dogs as nature intended is surely the better option? After all, we don't hear of people in the UK complaining that ear pricking (don't know the technical term) should be done because it stops dogs getting ear infections. I believe that to dock every dog of a breed that is traditionally docked just incase it sustains a tail injury is morally wrong. There are more of these breeds used as pets than there are used as working dogs. More of these dogs within these breeds will never sustain a tail injury than will so why dock every dog because a minority may recieve an injury? I love seeing my previous litter - some come to me for their 'holidays' and seeing them running through the fields with tail held high is a wonderful sight.<br><b>References : </b><br> Seems like a rant more than a question, lol !!!

However, with regard to docking, I am against docking. We got our Weimaraner b*tch 5 years ago and she had already had to have another part of her tail amputated following an infection post docking. When we got her home our own vet was of the opinion that we might need to have the rest of the tail taken off so she would be completely tail-less. We managed to save what little tail she had left which is now about two inches long.

We have never docked any of our puppies even before the docking ban came into the UK. We have been told by people that because we live in a rural area and have a shotgun licence we will be able to dock our puppies as working dogs. They aren't sold as working dogs and I will not mutilate my puppies just to get a quick sale. I have no doubt that I could sell my puppies at a vastly inflated price if I were to dock them as working dogs but I would never do that.

There are cases for docking and against docking at every turn. Leaving the dogs as nature intended is surely the better option? After all, we don't hear of people in the UK complaining that ear pricking (don't know the technical term) should be done because it stops dogs getting ear infections. I believe that to dock every dog of a breed that is traditionally docked just incase it sustains a tail injury is morally wrong. There are more of these breeds used as pets than there are used as working dogs. More of these dogs within these breeds will never sustain a tail injury than will so why dock every dog because a minority may recieve an injury?

I love seeing my previous litter - some come to me for their 'holidays' and seeing them running through the fields with tail held high is a wonderful sight.
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]]> By: Lisa http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca/comment-page-1#comment-1119 Lisa Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:28:59 +0000 http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca#comment-1119 well whatever the question is tail docking is now banned in the UK<br><b>References : </b><br> well whatever the question is
tail docking is now banned in the UK
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]]> By: ♥ DP ♥ http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca/comment-page-1#comment-1118 ♥ DP ♥ Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:48:59 +0000 http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca#comment-1118 I don't know what the question is? I believe in tail docking, and when done at 2-3 days of age is NOT at all painful or uncomfortable for puppies. Docking the tails is not something I would want to give up within the Doberman breed.. I love the little tail, and the cute bum when they wag their little tails.. And I like not having them whip against my leg, or clearing off the coffee table.. and like that I don't have to worry about them injuring what would be a long whip like tail... So I vote to keep docking the tails on Dobermans.. Judy Pritchard from Skylocke Dobermans has been doing tails for many years now.. She has no problems with the tails.. So if you see a problem with her having the information on her site.. I believe she has it there to show people how it's done and how they should do it rather than people just tying something around the tail without any knowledge at all on how to properly band the tails. I don't know what you are looking for... But that's the best I got..<br><b>References : </b><br> I don't know what the question is? I believe in tail docking, and when done at 2-3 days of age is NOT at all painful or uncomfortable for puppies. Docking the tails is not something I would want to give up within the Doberman breed.. I love the little tail, and the cute bum when they wag their little tails.. And I like not having them whip against my leg, or clearing off the coffee table.. and like that I don't have to worry about them injuring what would be a long whip like tail…

So I vote to keep docking the tails on Dobermans.. Judy Pritchard from Skylocke Dobermans has been doing tails for many years now.. She has no problems with the tails.. So if you see a problem with her having the information on her site.. I believe she has it there to show people how it's done and how they should do it rather than people just tying something around the tail without any knowledge at all on how to properly band the tails.

I don't know what you are looking for… But that's the best I got..
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]]> By: shaz http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca/comment-page-1#comment-1117 shaz Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:10:59 +0000 http://www.australiawellnesshubs.com/australia-stress-management/httpwwwskylockecomtailbandinghtmlthis-link-tells-u-how-to-dock-a-tail-who-checks-the-rspca#comment-1117 there.s a hell of a lot to read lololol<br><b>References : </b><br> there.s a hell of a lot to read lololol
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